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Steel column installed for WTC tower - I hope nobody smokes during it
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Stan de SD
18 years ago
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I notice you didn't answer the question.
Ho-hum again......
You mean we shouldn't be surprised that you can't answer the questions?
Don't get too worked up about it, fruit-loop - nobody of any self-worth
takes any of your 9/11 conspiro-crap seriously anyway. We just enjoy
humiliating the shit out of retards such as yourself when we have a few
spare minutes... :Oo
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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With the help of thermate and high explosive charges, but it is
considered
POLITICALLY INCORRECT to talk about this. Even UNPATRIOTIC!
Then how do you explain all the discussions on that very topic in this
newsgroup alone, not to mention the rest of Usenet, the books written on
the
topic, radio hosts discussing it, The Clowns for Truth Trekkie
conventions
where an entire room full of losers discusses how the UFO's used their
invisibility cloak to drop of the aliens who planted the thermite, etc.?
Hey! Leave the Trekkies out of this! They're not even in the same
dimension of kookdom as this crowd!
You know, the "UFO invisibility cloak" theory holds as much water as any of
the other goofball theories the 9/11 conspiro-kooks have concocted so far,
so why not?
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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Like I said, Harry... it's physics. That's slightly over 10 floors
per
second.
Think about that for a second... STOP!!!
.... that's all... just ONE SECOND, and ten floors have
disintegrated
downward,
throwing material for hundreds of yards.
Doesn't add up.
That's a fun little exercise Dave, but it isn't very scientific, is
it?
Please show me your physics calculations which tell you the amount of
time
the tower should have collapsed. And show me your calculations
regarding the
actual collapse.
He's seen all the monster and sci-fi movies where buildings come down
and timed them with his magic rense.com stopwatch.
Piling on is fun for you ignorant buffoons, isn't it?
The only "ignorant buffoon" here is the one who weaves some wack-nut
conspiracy theory from shards and scraps of circumstantial evidence, namely
YOU.

Come on, David, tell us what academic or vocational credentials you possess
that make you an expert on statics, metallurgy, physics, or aeronautical
engineering. Go ahead - you're so much more fucking smart and enlightened
than all those scientific and engineering professionals who has actual
access to the WTC site, samples of evidence, and lab instrumentation for
testing. You care to put your money where your mouth is, or are you going to
keep spouting the same old bullshit, hoping to find a sucker or two to bring
for a ride? :O(
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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Like I said, Harry... it's physics. That's slightly over 10
floors per
second.
Think about that for a second... STOP!!!
.... that's all... just ONE SECOND, and ten floors have
disintegrated
downward,
throwing material for hundreds of yards.
Doesn't add up.
That's a fun little exercise Dave, but it isn't very scientific, is
it?
Please show me your physics calculations which tell you the amount
of time
the tower should have collapsed. And show me your calculations
regarding the
actual collapse.
He's seen all the monster and sci-fi movies where buildings come down
and timed them with his magic rense.com stopwatch.
Piling on is fun for you ignorant buffoons, isn't it?
LOL, it's fun goofing on people who are so wrong, yet are too stubborn
to admit it. Sounds like a religion to me..
Dave Morgan, 9/11 Conspiro-Kook Extraordinaire, is living proof that some
people are naturally impervious to facts, logic, or reality-based decision
making. :O(
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:10:04 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:41:41 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
No arabs on the passenger manifests.
Got a passenger manifest you can show us?
NO. Can you find one for me ???
Not my job. You claimed "No arabs on the passenger manifests." It's your
job to
substantiate that claim.
Yep, Davey operates from the idea that any accusation by him, no matter how
loopy, stands, and that it's everyone ELSE's job to disprove it...
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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...
Isn't it annyoing when you have to waste your time and energy explaining the
difference between passenger manifests and list of victims to these retards?
The Hermit
18 years ago
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...
Hell yeah! No matter how many times I try to ignore them, I always fall
into their tiny, little circles of denial and stupidity.
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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LMAO......you've obviously been riding the short bus for too many years.
What part of "VICTIMS" DON'T you understand.
What part of language manipulation don't YOU understand, goofball?
If you twist the words and allegedly change the meanings, the rules
can be changed as desired.
YOU're the one doing the languate twisting, you disingenuous fuck...
Victims = dead people
Please note the following source code you need to put in your computations,
Davey.

/* getaclue.c */
main ( int PASSENGERS, int CREWMEMBERS, int PERPETRATORS)
{
int VICTIMS = (PASSENGERS+CREWMEMBERS)-PERPETRATORS;
if ((PASSENGERS+CREWMEMBERS) != VICTIMS) printf("SFTU, moron!"/n);
exit;
}
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Another kook who doesn't know what a victim is.
Be certain that you understand what 'deception' is.
Sure, it's what you're trying to do, you fucking ignoramus. The articles you
were quoting from were LISTS OF THE VICTIMS, not passenger manifests.
Perpetrators are NOT victims. Funny how nobody else has a problem
understanding that but you. :O(
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:24:39 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
No arabs on the passenger manifests.
They can't. If they did, you'd see that each of the hijackers is
clearly
listed.
They can't? OK.... I'll check into this, since I do know they aren't
readily
available. Do you have a source for this restriction?
Since you admit that you've never seen a passenger manifest, how do
you continue to claim that there are no Arabs on them?
http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_11_manifest.html
Oops.
"The hijackers' remains will be turned over to the FBI and held as
evidence, FBI spokesman Chris Murray said. After the investigation is
concluded, the State Department will decide what is to be done with
the remains."
Hopefully wrap them in pork skins and flush them down the toilet.
Autopsies done by the federal government instead of local hospitals?
What? The federal government taking part in a federal investigation?
How
dare they!
Well then, show me another multiple crash incident where the government
performed 100% of the autopsies. A source or cite would do nicely.
Autopsies of Flights 11, 175, and 93 were done under the direction of
the local coroner. Only Flight 77 was done by the government. So
show us a crash at a military installation where the government didn't
do the autopsies.
That just makes too much sense...
...
These bozos seems surprised to learn that airplanes fuel of fuel flown into
the ground at full throttle aren't always intact.
FAA flight control and ATC tapes completely destroyed.
Were they? do you have a source for that?
Oh get real. Why should I spoon feed you a damned thing. *You* don't
believe
it anyway. Of course there are sources... large numbers of them. GOOGLE
!!!!
This is OOOOOLD stuff from multiple major sources, man... I can't believe
that
you would try to pass it off as untrue or non-existant.
Did you hear the story about the ATC manager who wanted to make an
audio
recording of ATC statements? He had to clear it with the union. Since
all
ATC's that day were to be required to provide written statements, the
union
agreed, with the provision being that once the information on the tape
was
transcribed into a written statement, the audio tape would be
destroyed.
The written statements still exist.
Gee... Do you have a source for where I can read those ?
It's in the 911 Commission report.
Davey won't read it, because he KNOWS it's all part of the big government
disinformation plot. :O|
Are you saying that you believe that the everyday work done in our skies
is NOT recorded, verbatim ??? If so, you are quite wrong. Dozens of
FOIA requests exist asking for these daily records, which apparently no
longer exist.
Cite? Most of them have been played ad nauseum on the news.
There are even video documentaries online that play excerpts from those ATC
tapes, as well as interviews with the controllers. The so-called "theories"
of Davey and his ilk are conspicuous in the deliberate omission of a lot of
stuff that's already available, and known to anyone who bothered to look.
Funny that a paper passport made it through your building collapsing,
gazillion-degree fire, and all the way to the street below to be
amazingly
discovered on the same day by the FBI, thus pointing a 'patsy'
finger.
Funny that you are unable to note that millions of papers survive the
same
thing to end up on the street below.
I note that the "alleged" passport was supposedly at the nose of the
plane
making the impact and creating the fire.... NOT on other levels of the
bldg..
You don't have a clue as to where the passport was. But while you're
thinking about it, take a shot at explaining the hands and the flight
attendent body that was found from one of the WTC aircraft.
Hilarious that fires cause heat and heat rises and that papers can be
seen
coming out of the building from the same area as the fires and floating
upward first, on this column of hot air, before falling back to earth.
You are so silly. This particular piece of paper should have become part
of the alleged hijacker's boiling blood.
The fact of the matter is that the federal government has not and
likely
can not produce the evidence that supports their feeble stories about
911...
They have Dave.
If this is true, there would BE NO 911 Truth movement.
Yes, you're proof positive that there would be a "truth movement"
regardless.
Dedicated kooks don't let facts get in the way... :O|
... especially regarding building 7 and the mysteriously
disintegrating aircraft at the both the Pentagon and in
Pennsylvania. Plus, how can an aircraft of that size completely
disintegrate (especially since it contains indestructable parts) yet
the
soft bodies allegedly made it to autopsy?
Mysterious if this is the first time you ever looked at the result of a
plane crash.
I have seem the aftermath of a good sized plane crash. USAF Lockheed C-141B
67-0030 at Cairo West (aka "Bumfuck, Egypt"):
http://www.c141heaven.com/67/pic_67_0030.html
There wasn't much of this plane left, and it was on descent with flaps down.
How much of a similar size A/C would anyone expect to find if it were flown
full power into a structure? As far as finding bodies, they are typically
thrown around, and the impact absorbed the bodies are traumatized and parts
torn off and thrown around. Davey is clearly an idiot who is way over his
head regarding this type of stuff.
Stan de SD
18 years ago
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"The Hermit" wrote in a message
You guys think that the heat from the jet fuel that exploded mostly
outside of the buildings, destroyed all or almost all rivots, seams
and
welds of all 110 stories at almost the same time in both buildings
that
were engineered to withstand multiple jet plane impacts?
No. Outside of a few conspiracy kooks with limited reading
comprehension
skills, no one believes that. I doubt there is anyone who would even
consider it possible for the jet fuel to destroy anything over the
entire
110 stories.
As far as I know, outside the conspiracy kook community, most people
have
managed to grasp that the explosion from the jet fuel likely had
little
impact on the structural integrity of the building. The heat from the
jet
fuel fires also likely had little effect on the building as they
burned out
within minutes.
That the towers stood for some period of time after the jet impacts
tells
anyone they performed as designed (to withstand the impact of a
passenger
jet).
That's the kicker: Had the fires been quickly extinguished instead of
being fueled by the building's contents, those towers would still be
there today.
Bullshit. The fires burned themselves roughly 85% out in a matter of half
an hour.
Fire has never before and never since, caused the collapse of a steel
framed
building.
Are you REALLY that fucking CLUELESS?

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